Complete Freedom
Danny Barnes
By Raoul Hernandez, Fri., Nov. 5, 1999

Looking back over the 20th century, the birth of American popular music is tantamount to the Big Bang. It changed our entire universe. Everything we know. This country gave the world, and as far as we know, the entire universe, gospel, blues, jazz, country, R&B, soul, and the mightiest of them all, rock & roll. Music that has reached all but the most remote corners of the globe. Music that has captured the human spirit and moved mankind. Music that will last until the end of the world. Then came punk rock.
Not from this country, of course. Rather, the one we waged a revolution against: England. But if it was the motherland that birthed punk rock, then it was the rebellious offspring, the United States, that welcomed it like a comrade in arms. What better match? A musical form for the youth by the youth. A musical form for the common man "anarchy, noun, from the Greek for anarchos, having no ruler. 1.) Absence of government. 2.) A state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of government authority. 3.) A utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government."
Complete Freedom. "A utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government," says Webster's. Punk rock. From 1977's Sex Pistols and Clash lashing out against the "Complete Control" of a bloated, boring, alcoholic, and drug-addicted music industry as impotent as the English economy, to American misanthropes like the Misfits, Meat Puppets, and Minutemen DIYing at the fringes of Dutch Reagan's soul-dead Eighties and the final, triumphant breakthrough of Nirvana in the Nineties. Punk rock. And not just the music. A way of life. An identity. Danny Barnes.
"To me, punk rock is when you throw yourself into something with everything you got, and you don't listen to what anybody says, and you don't pay attention to shit," says Barnes. "You just throw yourself into it every single waking moment. It's just obsessively trying to make whatever it is you're doing the best. To me, that's what punk rock is."
Danny Barnes? The Bad Livers? Oh, right. Austin old-timey trio known for its punk covers "People in this day and age are really obsessed with form," says Barnes on the patio of Flipnotics, an espresso working its wonders on the already fast-talking, fast-thinking banjo player. "They're obsessed with putting things into a category so they can deal with it, especially when it comes to art. That's what people said about us.
"The way Mark and I looked at it, it was just something that we shared. Like an interest in the Jesus Lizard. We were both big Jesus Lizard fans. And we liked the Butthole Surfers, too. If ol' Al Jourgenson came to town, we'd go and see Ministry. That kind of music was part of our relationship. And Ralph was the same way. We just had that in common.
"That's what I was getting at with reconciling yourself unto punk rock, where you had that punk rock experience. That's sort of one way of dividing the whole universe: those that have had that experience and those that have not. It doesn't necessarily have to be at a punk rock show, but it's that cathartic kind, 'Oh my God! It all makes sense to me now.'
"I've had that a lot at shows. The first time I saw Toots & the Maytals play. When I saw Henry Threadgill play. When you see these musicians that changed the way we look at music, you can have these really cathartic moments of just total release and abandonment. Confirmation of humanity. It's a very spiritual experience "We certainly weren't a traditional acoustic band. They had to come up with something. That's just what got used and Mark and I let it be done, because they had to have some handle on the band "When you gotta play four hours, you start going, 'Hey! Uhhh, fuck! Hey, y'all ever play that Roky Erickson thing, that 'Red Temple Prayer' "I don't know. That's not really what we do, in a nutshell. But it's certainly an element of what we do. It's part of Mark and Ralph's and mine common history."
It was that green-vinyl "Lust for Life" 45.
"Yeah! Boy, I'll tell you. When I saw Iggy Pop play at Club Foot all those years ago! Man, that was fucking awesome! He was fucking awesome! I used to love his records. When I was in high school, Raw Power. Awesome!" "I remember my parents listened to country music around the house all the time," recalls the congenially friendly Barnes. "They played records. They had a really weird way of listening to stuff. When they played a record, you had to sit and pay attention. You couldn't talk. When they played a record it was, 'Okay, we are now going to listen to Johnny Cash.' Then, the old man would get up and play this record. You know how music later in the Seventies became the background of the party? Back then, that's not the way they listened to music."
Yours was an instant affinity?
"Yeah, because they spoke about these people in reverential terms, almost like Biblical characters. My parents went to church and everything, but they sort of spoke of these people as though we were talking about Moses. They had Biblical gravity, the way they talked about 'Jimmie Rodgers,' with invisible quotation marks around the words. They basically worshiped these guys. My father was a real music freak.
"He gave me Elvis' first 45, which he bought from Elvis out of the back of a pickup truck in Waco, Texas. Elvis was the first band out of three, opening up for two other bands, and my father went there to see Elvis. He was just a total music freak. He used to travel, sold farm equipment, traveled all over the states, and I'd ride with him in the truck. He'd always listen to trucker radio and that music was totally ingrained in my DNA from that time."
Since only armadillos are harder to avoid in rural Texas than live music If there's one thing big brothers are good for, it's paving the way, trailblazing. Leaving their guitars lying around. By the time Danny started taking lessons from Maxie Roesller, a banjoist of local renown, the nine-year-old couldn't play any songs, but he knew some chords. Banjo, guitars, a few harmonicas. It was that kind of family, that sort of household. Not that Barnes was a prodigy or anything.
"I don't think I had a lot of natural talent, to be totally honest," says Barnes, "but I just really, really, really worked at it On Danny Barnes' Web site (http://dannybarnes.com), there are a series of essays dwelling on two themes, "Music Is Good" and "The Music Industry Sucks." Chapter Six instructs "Pick With Old People," which is exactly what the youngster did. John Ludwig, a local bassist who's played with Kelly Willis, Chris Wall, and the Robison brothers, his father headed a bluegrass band, so Barnes struck up an acquaintance. The elder Ludwig also owned plenty of records in a town where the record store is right next door to a yacht club, polo fields, and BMW dealership. Hanging around, Barnes not only got an informal education, he had the opportunity to play with "old people" who took music seriously, but not enough to exclude a kid from picking along.
Another good thing about old(er) people (and brothers) are their driver's licenses "I used to come down to Raul's," he remembers. "I would go to the clubs to see the bands I liked. I had two older brothers, and they came down a lot. I went to the Armadillo when I was like 11. I would go about once a month "My biggest all-time show was John Hartford with the Newgrass Revival. When I saw them, that just sent me in orbit. Especially John Hartford, because that fucker came out there with that fiddle and that banjo "He really impressed me, because he had done his homework One last benefit of big brothers: They've got buddies. One of them, a Vietnam vet, introduced the banjo-playing Barnes to the latest sounds out of England. Punk rock. Catching a similar buzz to that of traditional music, Barnes was a stone convert by the time he moved to Austin. A fan of Raul's regulars such as Ty Gavin and the Skunks, Barnes stalked all the big roadshows of this new wave: the Cramps, B-52's, Talking Heads, Devo, Elvis Costello. He had his own band, of course, the Vipers, and while he was having a considerable amount of trouble reconciling punk rock to traditional bluegrass and country, that fork in the road never really came, because Barnes himself hit the road. Literally.
No sooner had he arrived at UT than Barnes was nearly killed in a wreck on the highway. Thrown from the car, Barnes "bounced down the interstate at 50mph," breaking his neck in two places. Doctors expected the musician to be paralyzed, but he was not. Nevertheless, it took a while for the developing musician to return to music. Sitting in the sunlight at Flipnotics, his once-long hair shorn close to the skull, you can see a long, thick scar on the crown of Barnes' head; he runs his fingers over it when asked and motions across the street to the trailer park where his parents would stay when they came to visit their convalescing son. It was there that Barnes met Brad Brayshers, a local picker who rekindled the Belton boy's interest in banjo and traditional music. Playing live came next.
"When I was in college, you could always make $50 a night in a country cover band," explains the musician. "That's kinda how I put myself through school, playing in Top 40 country bands in La Grange, Round Rock, Georgetown. It was fun; I was learning to play country guitar. But I was kinda frustrated, because I was coming up with my own way of playing music. I could tell something was boiling inside of me that wanted to come out, and it wasn't being a sideman for somebody else. At that time, [my vision] wasn't informed yet, but I could see it as an island in the distance taking shape. It was a combination of the various elements I'd been exposed to."
That vessel took the shape of an acoustic trio called the Barnburners, featuring local musicians of note J.D. Foster and Rich Brotherton. Barnes' idea was that with musicians of this caliber, they could play anything, from George Jones to Bartok. It worked. The band was a hit.
"Those guys were really good," says Barnes. "Still, it wasn't really focused; those guys were popular with other artists in town, so they had other things they wanted to do. I couldn't get 'em to play with me. That was kind of devastating for me, because I had it. I could see where we would have done really well, but couldn't get the guys. They made money with other artists "That was kind of a bummer, 'cause it was like getting a date with this good looking girl and she won't return your calls. It didn't pan out for me. That's when I formed the Bad Livers." "It went pretty good," answers Barnes to the obvious question. "It went pretty good. They had a little more of an aggressive edge to what they were doing. They had reconciled themselves unto punk rock a little more than what the other two fellows had. The other two guys were slicker and more polished musicians. So, it wasn't exactly what I was thinking. It was a little different. I had to remount and reload when it came time to write for the group. It sorta changed."
Barnes says he got the idea from some locals calling themselves the Goose Creek Symphony, a group featuring a hillbilly fiddler they'd molded into a "Frank Zappa-esque kind of rock thing." Contemporary music with traditional arrangements and instrumentation. Bingo. The Bad Livers were hatched. Next came the Saxon Pub residency and an enthusiastic local following that responded to what Barnes calls the band's joie de vivre. It was a good vibe.
Making $200-$300 per performance, the Bad Livers also took advantage of the relative ease with which an acoustic threepiece can tour. Even before cutting "Lust for Life," the band was vanning it to places like Chicago, and with their low overhead and T-shirts to sell, the trio was in black ink immediately. To supplement their income, they also played weddings, parties, and whatever "weirdo" gigs came along. All the while, Barnes, Rubin, and White listened to punk rock cassettes in the van.
Then came Paul Leary.
"We were hanging around with the Butthole Surfers at that time," recounts Barnes. "They would come to our shows and they were our friends, and I got interested in the whole idea of writing a record. I started hanging out with Paul, and he sorta taught me how to write a record, even though he never sat down lesson-style. I observed him working and I adopted that style, and that's the same style I still use.
"What he taught me was to throw your fucking self into it with total reckless abandon, just like completely fucking focus on this one thing. You're taking no prisoners, you're not accepting any negative criticism. You're just totally hammering, going for it. Your own internal carrot on a stick. That's what I learned from watching him work. How to come up in your mind with a sound and have enough familiarity with the equipment to be able to tweak it and get that sound out of the equipment."
King Coffey, the Butthole's drummer, also proved an invaluable resource to the Bad Livers, since Corey Rusk, who had issued most of the Surfers' catalog as owner of Chicago-based indie Touch & Go, was a close personal friend and distributed Coffey's Trance Syndicate label. When Rusk handed Barnes "a pile of money and said send me the record at some point," the Bad Livers decided to become an anomaly on a punk rock imprint rather than traditional fare on a traditional label such as Sugar Hill, which had also expressed interest in the band. Tough to say whether the North Carolina-based indie would've had the success the Bad Livers had with Dust on the Bible, an album all but made for Sugar Hill.
Playing virtually every instrument on a selection of Bible Belt fixer-uppers like "Farther Along," "I Saw the Light," "Will the Circle Be Unbroken," and "Jesus Is on the Mainline," Barnes calls Dust on the Bible a "warm-up" for the Bad Livers' formal entrance into the studio. Recorded on a four-track in Barnes' spare bedroom, the homemade cassette, recently issued by Touch & Go on CD, may well be the trio's most popular recording.
"I guarantee you one thing," asserts its creator. "That son of a gun kept us in beans a long time. We put that rascal out on cassette. We sold thousands of those things. Thousands of them. We made more money off that cassette than anything we've ever done. Just printing 'em up and selling it [at shows]. I think it was 4,000-5,000 that we sold at $8 a pop. We did great off of that.
"Actually, I made it as a gift to my family for Christmas. I was practicing making a record. I was gonna do an acoustic gospel record of songs that really meant a lot to me emotionally. So, it got me going on how to do it. When I applied what I learned from there with original compositions, I came up with Delusions of Banjer."
Released in 1992 on Touch & Go, Delusions of Banjer was Mr. Hyde to Dust on the Bible's Dr. Jekyll. Darker sonically, lyrically, and spiritually, the Paul Leary-produced Delusions was comprised almost entirely of Edward D. Barnes originals like the penitent "How Dark My Shadow's Grown" (a CD-only bonus on Dust), which sounded like it was already a well-worn page out of the traditional bluegrass/old-time music canon. "Ghost Town," "Six Feet Down," gap-toothed-and-grinning banjo and fiddle gloom mixed in with moonshine lunacy like Leary's "The Adventures of Pee Pee the Sailor" and rural country radio hits (if there were such a thing) like "Country Blues" and the maddeningly catchy "Crow Black Chicken," complete with its dissonant punk rock breakdown done in a minimalist, acoustic fashion. "Pretty Daughter," a father's retribution against the man that dared, and the deathbed lament of "Precious Time" sealed the debut's fate.
The Bad Livers were declared badass. "Roughly speaking, the Bad Livers have about 10,000-11,000 fans," calculates Barnes. "That's what we've been able to access, so a good record for us is going to sell about 11,000. You'd have to check this math, but I think there's 75 major markets, and if you divide it into 11,000, that comes up 130. That's an average of how many fans we can draw. Some cities none, some cities 260. All our records sell in that range right there. They always have."
Actually, it's 146 people per market, and most of them did their part in buying the next three Bad Livers releases: Horses in the Mines (1994), produced solely by Barnes and a natural pairing alongside Delusions For Ralph White, however, six-plus years and an estimated 1,200 shows logged were enough, and following roadwork for Horses in the Mines, he left the band. This coincided with the decision to try and crack an already-perceived commercial glass ceiling with a label that at least knew where that invisible surface was: Sugar Hill. White was replaced briefly by guitarist Bob Grant for Hogs (all four Bad Livers contribute), which did better than Horses, while also signaling a new direction for the band. Six spacey, somewhat disturbing minutes of "Falling Down the Stairs (With a Pistol in My Hand)" at the end of Hogs signaled Barnes' discovery of the avant-garde. Industry and Thrift followed fashion and suffered for it, selling only 4,000-5,000 copies.
"It's fucking soul-crushing to try and do this," says Barnes casting a dejected look. It a phrase he uses often "And he goes, 'Hey, man. You have to suffer such incredible rejection in this business.' And that's all he said. And I went ..."
Barnes pauses a moment and then in the tone of someone receiving a 3am phone call about a loved one:
"'Okay, I understand.'"
Silence.
Like maybe working on The Newton Boys, the 1997 Richard Linklater film (Slacker, Dazed & Confused) Barnes scored? Of course, being your own manager and negotiating a deal at the same time you're trying to write music is a bitch. Either one is a full-time job. Both together is, well ...
"It's soul-crushing to get into a car and just try to go play a bunch of gigs," continues Barnes. "You can ask any band that just came off the road on the first tour and ask them how it went. They lost their ass, and they've been gone two weeks.
"We were always lucky. We could always come up in the black, because we could play a bluegrass festival, or pick up a wedding, or do something weird that would help. We always made it. But we slept on people's floors for years. That's hard shit. Mark and I have played about 2,000 shows together. Everybody my age has either made a bunch of dough or quit.
"I never even tell anybody I'm in a band anymore. Like at the airport, I've had guys come up to me and say, 'So, you're in a band, huh?' And you've been on the road, trying to get home. You're at O'Hare, sitting there, reading, doing the crossword puzzle, and some guy comes up to you: 'So, you're in a band. I used to be in a band. I had to get a job.' You know. 'How much money are you making? You can't make any money doing that, can you?' Totally just giving you shit. You're totally assaulted with this stuff.
"Like if you check into a hotel, you never want to tell the lady you're in a band, because the last band that was there set fire to the place, and they'll kick you out if they find out you're in a band. So, I tell everybody now that I'm an instrument dealer and these are my samples.
"The reason why it's soul-crushing is simple: The supply-and-demand curve is totally fucked up. There's way more supply than demand. You can't blame people for capitalizing on it, because that's the nature of the beast, but there's way too many people doing it. There's too many clubs, there's too many bands, and not enough people that are even interested in it. Period." "All my new shit is sample-based, really," he exclaims. "I have a sequencer, a sampler, a synthesizer, and a hard disc recorder In the case at hand, "this thing" might be Danny Barnes and His ... Oft Mended Raiment, the most recent of Barnes' four homemade releases. Following Pathos of Smyke, a pressing of 100 all featuring different songs, mixes, and artwork, came the similarly minted Live at McCabe's, and Minor Dings, all leading up to Raiment, his home studio masterpiece. More Beck than Bad Livers, Raiment is the future of Danny Barnes.
"My operating phrase for that was 'New Configuration, New Riff, and New Structure,'" he explains. "I'm was trying to come up with something new No kidding. Word is that the new Bad Livers LP, Blood and Mood, due for release in early 2000, is more of the same. Forget Sugar Hill, forget Touch & Go, sounds like Blood and Mood belongs on Mo' Wax, DJ Shadow's label.
"It's gonna be real interesting to see what happens with this record," says Barnes enthusiastically, "because it's a complete left turn. It doesn't even sound like the same band. It's not the same band. I probably played more piano than I did banjo. Plus, it has a lot of punk rock elements to it. With Blood and Mood, I was trying to explore musics that Mark and I have in common besides bluegrass. One of them is punk rock. We both totally flipped out on punk rock."
Yeah, what about Mark Rubin? That big tattooed guy next to you on all those drives, flights, floors "I really, really like Mark," says Barnes simply. "We've been at it a long time. It's like being married. We have an understanding. I like Mark because he has a punk rock attitude about stuff."
There it is again: punk rock. And again, and again, and again "That's why I left Austin," explains Barnes in one long, last rush. "Austin just wasn't working out for me. I could make money in Austin. We could draw 700 people in Austin, but I had no market in Houston, Dallas, or San Antonio. The closest place I could get paid was like Albuquerque or Denver or St. Louis or New Orleans. It was like sticking a pencil compass in Austin, and then drawing this gigantic 15-hour drive arc around Austin, and that's where I had to go to get another job.
"I basically tripled my income by moving to Seattle. Like for instance, I work with [jazz guitarist] Bill Frisell. He calls me, gives me work. I struck up a friendship with him. Also, I study music with this guy, Buehl Niedlinger. This guy played with Cecil Taylor, Thelonious Monk, Igor Stravinski. He's done everything that you can possibly do in music. Through him, I've gotten to work with Richard Green, who's a famous bluegrass violinist. I've gotten to play with Robert Bowland, who was in Bill Monroe's band. I got to play in a band that had two Bill Monroe alumni in it. All these doors opened up for me.
"If you go to a city like New York, Seattle, or Chicago, there's a fan base, a supply-and-demand curve. Here, there's a demand for what I'm doing. People will come out and pay cover; in Austin I could only charge $8. Here, I can charge $15 "I've got mountains in my back yard. I'm interested in flying airplanes, and I live right next to a small airport. I'm gonna buy an airplane for my business next year. I have a sailboat, and I really like to sail, so I live a half a mile from the Sound. I can be in the water in minutes. I'm interested in fly-fishing, trout fishing, so I can fish all I want. It's quiet. The town I live in only has 100 people "I just felt like I reached this glass ceiling in Austin. I was teaching other people lessons, and playing on other people's records, but I really wasn't getting the killer calls, I wasn't learning anything from everything else. To be honest, I'm making a really good living now. I was fucking starving down there. Like when Christmas would come around, me and my wife would have to save for months. Now, I'm shopping for an airplane."
Freedom. Complete Freedom.
To hear Danny Barnes tell it, growing up in Belton, Texas, had its definite utopian aspects. As the Sixties began, Belton, 60 miles north of the state capital, was the sticks
Raw Power
Waiting for Brotherton and Foster to free up some time, Barnes accepted a pick-up touring gig with a punkgrass band from Dallas called Killbilly, and on a short swing through the East Coast, he got to know the band's bassist Mark Rubin. In late 1989, "maybe 1990," puzzles Barnes, the banjoist found the occasion to ring up Rubin and a local fiddle player he'd met at a Sunday afternoon Cajun jam session at the Blue Bayou (now Trophy's on South Congress), Ralph White. He needed help. The Barnburners were on the books for a bluegrass festival in Hempstead, but his two bandmates were out on the road with David Halley, Jo Carol Pierce
Delusions of Banjer
It's Sunday morning, early, and Danny Barnes is calling from the road. He's just dropped his partner Rubin off at the airport and isn't looking forward to the 600-mile drive ahead of him. Talking about his latest projects, though, he's happy
New Day
The Bad Livers play tonight, Thursday, at Antone's. Danny Barnes plays solo at Flipnotics, Friday, Nov. 5. The Mad Cat Trio, aka Barnes, Mark Rubin, and Erik Hokkanen, play Saturday, Nov. 6, also at Flipnotics.